{"id":7295,"date":"2019-04-01T09:32:15","date_gmt":"2019-04-01T08:32:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.wasteyourtime.co\/?p=7295"},"modified":"2019-09-06T21:42:45","modified_gmt":"2019-09-06T20:42:45","slug":"telegram-kill-messages","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/traders-paradise.com\/magazine\/2019\/04\/telegram-kill-messages\/","title":{"rendered":"Telegram chooses to kill the messages"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">2 min read<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-7296\" src=\"https:\/\/traders-paradise.com\/magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/telegram-chooses-to-kill-the-messages.jpg\" alt=\"Telegram chooses to kill the messages\" width=\"800\" height=\"516\" srcset=\"https:\/\/traders-paradise.com\/magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/telegram-chooses-to-kill-the-messages.jpg 800w, https:\/\/traders-paradise.com\/magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/telegram-chooses-to-kill-the-messages-300x194.jpg 300w, https:\/\/traders-paradise.com\/magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/telegram-chooses-to-kill-the-messages-768x495.jpg 768w, https:\/\/traders-paradise.com\/magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/telegram-chooses-to-kill-the-messages-370x239.jpg 370w, https:\/\/traders-paradise.com\/magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/telegram-chooses-to-kill-the-messages-760x490.jpg 760w, https:\/\/traders-paradise.com\/magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/telegram-chooses-to-kill-the-messages-424x273.jpg 424w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Telegram decides to add the option of killing chat history not only yours but also the other participants in the conversation. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">WOW!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Telegram has added a possibility for users to delete messages in one-to-one private chats. And not only from their individual inbox.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In just a few steps, you can delete every trace of communication, both for yourself but sent by the other person in the conversation. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Of course, it is possible only if you all have the latest version of Telegram. This innovation is revolutionary because you do not delete messages for yourself (if they are written by other ppl). The plot behind is that you may really delete them so no one can see them anymore. Not only the one who sent them to you.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_74 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-grey ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<div class=\"ez-toc-title-container\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<span class=\"ez-toc-title-toggle\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"ez-toc-pull-right ez-toc-btn ez-toc-btn-xs ez-toc-btn-default ez-toc-toggle\" aria-label=\"Toggle Table of Content\"><span class=\"ez-toc-js-icon-con\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/traders-paradise.com\/magazine\/2019\/04\/telegram-kill-messages\/#One_of_the_most_famous_applications_for_encrypted_communications_Telegram_March_24_introduced_the_option_of_deleting_all_messages\" >One of the most famous applications for encrypted communications, Telegram, March 24, introduced the option of deleting all messages.<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/traders-paradise.com\/magazine\/2019\/04\/telegram-kill-messages\/#However_not_everyone_agrees_with_this_interpretation_of_the_%E2%80%9CDelete_for_Everyone%E2%80%9D_option\" >However, not everyone agrees with this interpretation of the &#8220;Delete for Everyone&#8221; option.<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/traders-paradise.com\/magazine\/2019\/04\/telegram-kill-messages\/#The_%E2%80%98record_is_killed\" >The \u2018record\u2019 is killed.<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/traders-paradise.com\/magazine\/2019\/04\/telegram-kill-messages\/#Telegram_claims_%E2%80%9Cleave_no_trace_on_our_servers%E2%80%9D\" >Telegram claims \u201cleave no trace on our servers\u201d.<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-5\" href=\"https:\/\/traders-paradise.com\/magazine\/2019\/04\/telegram-kill-messages\/#Only_Durov_could_prove_that_the_messages_are_deleted_from_its_end_too\" >Only Durov could prove that the messages are deleted from its end too.<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"One_of_the_most_famous_applications_for_encrypted_communications_Telegram_March_24_introduced_the_option_of_deleting_all_messages\"><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One of the most famous applications for encrypted communications, Telegram, March 24, introduced the option of deleting all messages.<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How to do that?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The procedure is simple: keep your finger on the message and wait for the option to be deleted. When you select it, a pop-up window appears asking if you want to delete the message for the other participant. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Quite simple.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Feature &#8220;delete any message in both ends in any private chat, anytime&#8221; is added to the updated version of Telegram 5.5 with the explanation that it offers more privacy and more control.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The founder of Telegram, Pavel Durov explained on the day of launching this option that it is required because of the risk of taking someone&#8217;s old messages out of the context.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cOver the last 10-20 years, each of us exchanged millions of messages with thousands of people. Most of those communication logs are stored somewhere in other people\u2019s inboxes, outside of our reach. Relationships start and end, but messaging histories with ex-friends and ex-colleagues remain available forever,\u201d he states. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cAn old message you already forgot about can be taken out of context and used against you decades later. A hasty text you sent to a girlfriend in school can come to haunt you in 2030 when you decide to run for mayor,\u201d he added.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"However_not_everyone_agrees_with_this_interpretation_of_the_%E2%80%9CDelete_for_Everyone%E2%80%9D_option\"><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">However, not everyone agrees with this interpretation of the &#8220;Delete for Everyone&#8221; option. <\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The US TechCrunch Tech portal, specializing in startups and new technologies, is against to what Durov says. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">&#8221;More accurately it removes control from everyone in any private chat, and opens the door to the most paranoid; lowest common denominator; and\/or a sort of general entropy\/anarchy \u2014 allowing anyone in a private thread to choose to edit or even <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">completely nuke the chat history if they so wish at any moment in time.&#8221; wrote this portal.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In addition, says <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/\">TechCrunch<\/a>, the new option allows Telegram users to manipulate edits. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">&#8221;The feature could allow for self-serving and selectively silent and\/or malicious edits that are intended to gaslight\/screw with <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">others, such as by making them look mad or bad.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The competition, messaging app <a href=\"https:\/\/traders-paradise.com\/magazine\/2019\/05\/update-whatsapp-immediately\/\">WhatsApp<\/a>, also allows users to delete a message for everyone in a chat. But the WhatsApp&#8217;s delete features is restricted to messages you sent. there is no notification <a href=\"https:\/\/traders-paradise.com\/magazine\/2018\/09\/crypto-messengers\/\">automatically<\/a> baked into the chat history to record that a message was deleted.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In Telegrams new feature there\u2019s no record. <\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"The_%E2%80%98record_is_killed\"><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The \u2018record\u2019 is killed. <\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There\u2019s no indication there was ever a message.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Telegram in its blog from March,24 named &#8221;Taking Back Our Right to Privacy&#8221; wrote:<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">&#8221;Today, we are giving hundreds of millions of users complete <a href=\"https:\/\/traders-paradise.com\/magazine\/2018\/10\/privacy-google\/\">control<\/a> of any private conversation they have ever had. You can now choose to delete any message you have sent or received from both sides in any private chat. The messages will disappear for both you and the other person \u2013 without leaving a trace.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Telegram in its blog from March,24 named &#8221;Taking Back Our Right to Privacy&#8221; wrote:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">&#8221;Today, we are giving hundreds of millions of users complete control of any private conversation they have ever had. You can now choose to delete any message you have sent or received from both sides in any private chat. The messages will disappear for both you and the other person \u2013 without leaving a trace.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Also, there is no possibility to reassemble deleted communication. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Honestly, we are not certain, nor Telegram provides that information, does a copy stays anywhere on their servers.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Telegram_claims_%E2%80%9Cleave_no_trace_on_our_servers%E2%80%9D\"><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Telegram claims \u201cleave no trace on our servers\u201d. <\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The absence of such information will easily open Telegram to finger-pointing it\u2019s acting negligently. The offering such delete option with zero protection sounds pretty immoral and irresponsible.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A year ago Facebook was criticized for testing an alike feature. The incident was called as another Facebook breach of user trust.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Later, Facebook developed a weakened Unsend feature. That feature gives users the possibility to dismiss a message they\u2019d sent. But it is possible only in the frame of 10 minutes after publishing the message.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Back to Telegrams new app. <\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Only_Durov_could_prove_that_the_messages_are_deleted_from_its_end_too\"><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Only Durov could prove that the messages are deleted from its end too. <\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Honestly, it requires unimaginable established server&#8217;s memory even for a tiny item. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If everything as like as Durov said, we could go to his inbox and delete whatever we want.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Don&#8217;t you think so?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Maybe the new Telegram app is not so bad after all.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Don&#8217;t waste your money!<\/strong><br \/>\n<b><\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><a style=\"color: #ff0000;\" href=\"https:\/\/traders-paradise.com\/magazine\/2018\/07\/money-risk-trading\"><b>risk disclosure<\/b><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>2 min read Telegram decides to add the option of killing chat history not only yours but also the other participants in the conversation. 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